Full disclosure I bought an Evnroll 6 (Im a mallet guy) last week and have played 2 rounds so far with limited practice. Most come with little to no evidence that the advancement offered, whatever it happens to be, can actually lower your score. You can hang on to it for 10 years and it might be worth more than you paid for it. Six years ago, Evnroll compelled golfers to consider the limits of how a putter could impact both the speed and direction of every putt. whereas the technology should help more, the longer the distance (due to geometrical reasons) Is there a plan to? I had a Spider Tour before being chosen to test the Evnroll. Did you change your mind yet? Put differently, Evnroll established itself first with gearheads and consumers who held performance as the only worthy metric. Not sure why more people arent rolling these putters, George low wizard Jack Nicklaus used model. What is important for people to know is that the Gearing only works if you connect with the ball on an off center hit WITH a square face. The consistency of roll is uncanny; makes lag putts easy. So the gearing effect happens at impact, correct? Well, that is exactly what our testers saw over and over again in our lab. Nothing rolls like.. Groove pattern is very important. Secondly, a few years ago we ran what we felt was and still is the most comprehensive independent head-to-head putter test and analysis done in the golf industry. Callaway Epic Forged irons - Reg flex Steelfiber, 4~AW, new! We would love to have you to our facility, this way you can see the test for yourself. I tried these at PGA Superstores as well and bought the ER2 instantly. Which we did. The best putters ever made are, used putters why because they are only used once for half the price. Fabulous putters. I bought the ER2 the first day it was available (came across it by accident). http://instagram.com/evnroll. satin black Length/loft/lie adjustments * Been in the bag for 5 years., and nothing has come close to making me what to bench it the Scotty X5 can get off the bench. If you spend $400-$500 on a driver, why not a putter that is definitely great. How was this observed? What about the Ping variable COR face that was intended to help on mishits? Or cater to Tour pros with one-off, bespoke design services. You can post now and register later. Its a claim no other putter brand makes. That is about it. The critical mass on the outside of the face is greater than the critical mass on the inside. Although they are very limited. I paid $99 plus tax. Rife has made center shafted putters before, so Im a little surprised they didnt initially release one. Youll note that the grooves do not run the full width of the face, so if for some strange reason you feel you benefit from a dead toe, I suspect that would still be true. Tried to go to their website, but get an error any idea how to contact them? If robot testing was the best way to test putters you can trust us that it would be the way we would test. THeres a lot of difference in most golfers putting ability between a 15-20 handicap versus a 0-5 handicap. Out of their line up its the least ugly and only one I can see myself purchasing if what people are saying about the results are true. Who cares if it is just an expensive chunk of pretty metal but doesnt perform; you look good spring it during your 3-putts?? You never went back to steel or wood. When it comes to putters I listen..the Carbon that was tested has been in my bag since last fall and Ive done very well in tournament play where I live because of itand Im a custom putter guy..if the stats bear out with the ER2 then I will be even happier! Sorry, Karl, but gear effect is not an aerodynamic phenomenon. At least that is how it seems to me. strange things happen. Pardon me? I would love to believe that a putter costing $350 dollars would actually produce the skill it would take to reduce the number of putts, to warrant such a price. The putters seem to work well, but something about his business models or investors seem a bit off. What it showed was something you wouldnt believe unless you saw it for yourself. I will say this. The human factory is much greater at long distances vs shorter distances where most people can sink a putt if properly stroke on the putter face. But after a technology is proven it also had to work with the multiple ways a golfer will use that particular putter (stroke type, etc.). I used to roll my misses a foot or two past the hole. Im guessing a lot of pros arent using this yet because they have more consistent putting strokes than us amateurs and care a lot more about feel. Face material, inserts or various metal compounds. The other limitation is that it might take Evnroll several years to bring a new design to market. Ask for Jamie if needing help getting fitted. Wouldnt it make sense to try this instead of always spending $$$ on Camerons? Thats a bold statement. Scotty Cameron to me is just a hype and too commercial. My earlier round I played around the course much better and thought I had putted well so to get 5 puts less when I was playing quite badly saved yesterdays round IMO. I am a mallet style person but cant seem to get the ER2 out of my bag! Previous big improvement for me was with the Ketsch. Product information Technical Details Additional Information Feedback Would you like to tell us about a lower price? How about instead of screaming the world is flat! From your soapbox, try one out, see if theres a tangible difference. Liked the grooves a lot but it was just too light. Thats about the perfect size for a center shafted putter. Sincerely, I had 3 clear miss-hits on the toe of the putter that all went in when normally they pull to the left. And while one could argue that this identity might keep Evnroll from reaching mass appeal status, Rife isnt willing to compromise on his DNA. The pandemic didnt help and Evnroll felt the supply-chain squeeze as much as anyone. Why not save this article for April 1? A clean, identifiable look is paramount for brand recognition and we sort of got away from that, admits Rife. I put the ER2 in the bag three months ago and have made more putts (and missed fewer short ones) than in a long time. I think this will just take a little time to get used to compared to my previous putter. The ball doesnt actually curve back while rolling? Thanks Karl. You have to try them to see for yourself before you have anything negative to say. He was a great putter and did it with an old Bullseye, which is arguably one of the least forgiving putters out there. Im sold and I doubt Ill ever move to another. I have to agree with many of the nay-sayers here whom are questioning the claim of gear effect of this putter. Evnroll models finished 1st and 2nd from 10 feet. Hey Karl, that is an excellent description of how this technology works. It rolls straight and stays on line. So what makes the grooves on anEvnroll Putter any different? His Armlock Made Easy platform asked golfers to take an existing putter length and add six inches. And I think most resort courses will tell you that they keep the greens slower because the average golfer cannot putt well on fast surfaces and rounds are much slower because of more 4 putts, or more versus the slower speeds. Amongst pricing benefits, with several machine shops and a handful of CAD (computer-aided design) engineers, the Cameron empire can create prototypes and experimental designs and run several design cycles in parallel, all while maintaining a standard production schedule. Outstanding ball roll data on Quintic ? This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Feedback is crisp, counterbalance and heavy head promote a rhythmic stroke. Evnroll ER1TS 4 799 kr. Imagine using a robot to perfectly test straight strike vs 1/4 miss to left/right vs 1/2 miss to left/right and comparing the numbers. So happy with the performance. The right grooves matter. Overall I was very hesitant to fork over almost $500 AUD for a putter but after just one round I am totally convinced it is worth it and I will be using this putter for the next 10 years easily unless there is a new better technology that comes along. Just like PXG and theyve been out of business for two years. Rapid change only happens because something was built that made the existing model obsolete. The 2 is good. I was very intrigued as well. That will impart an initial spin that is angled slightly towards the center of the face, which will result in off center hits spinning slightly back towards the hole (like a motorcycle tire needing to tilt to turn). Oh yeah, and spend more time practicing your putting. Come on man, this is 2017. In that vein, what do you call an established putter design that Rife then improves? It is hard to believe for many golfers when traditionally they have been marketed too with little to no performance that backs up all the previous claims. Each feature has a purpose that ultimately supports better performance without compromising the aesthetic. The Mezz from lab golf sounds hard to beat for results. Too light at 370 Gm ? Odyssey DFX Seven 1 049 kr 1 499 kr. ODYSSEY O-WORKS #1: RRP 179. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Im still in maybe $130 for a putter Id put up against the big names. Shortly after Evnrolls launch, other manufacturers started mimicking Rifes patented groove approach. Evnroll models dominated the top 5 from 5 feet. The top putter completed its track in approximately 9% fewer putts than the last place finisher. Sure it takes a bit of getting used to, but is well worth the effort. This leads me to believe that they would be great putters for fast greens, but would take a lot of getting used to on slow greens. Flj oss . Just have to stick with the old Ping Anser that they all copied. This is what we call disruptive technology. Just waiting for some more left handed options. 304 Stainless provide a great finish sets up nice behind the ball. You might want to look at your frugality issues. No bribes, please. Find a putter that looks good at address, is easy to align, and has the weight and feel you like. It would also violate the laws of physics. Point is, a tightly grooved face does impart truer roll, believe it or not, Ive seen it for myself and has made me a believer and a better putter. It reminds me of a old Knight putter my uncle gave to me when I was 13. Still using my Guerin Rife Two Bar Hybrid Mallet after many years and it still is a great putter that I come back too time and time again. Nothing beats a Scotty!! Ill revisit because i like the shape of the ER2 and the performance was there. MyGolfSpy, Inc. All Rights Reserved. I also want the toe of my putter dead for putting on super fast greens. Also, Ill never understand how only a test with only 10 participants is acceptable these days. I guess it worked given the server crash and some posts here about buying. If you play on the local muni or other "Value" public courses with slow greens it takes a lot of effort to hit lag putts outside of 50'. Hahahaha even my girlfriend is getting jealous at the affection I show for this thing. The Evnroll ER2 required 9 fewer putts to complete holes at the 10 distance. Its not only the individual putter but the visual message it presents stacked alongside 15 or 20 putters of the same brand. I know this isnt a Ping thread, but Im definitely disappointed. Theyre behind on this for sure. Were they all under 5 handicap. Bought an ER6 a few months ago. Ill bit I want one. My putting average per round is still the same so I dont think Im getting much from the putter, lol! Putters are like Drivers you buy a new one every year because its not you its the equipment . Almost nobody disputes this. The performance has carried over to the course and practice green. I had an ER2 the year they were released. Did you see the video of robot testing? Although, that may be changing with Dustin Johnson switching to a mallet and winning immediately. Im with you guys on the rest of robot testing though, I think it to be fairly useless with ballstriking just due to angle of attack, lofts, lies, spin, etc. Gear effect is an aerodynamic producted effect and not a ground produced effect. Since the birth of golf, there have been tens of thousands of putter designs. ***if resources are a show-stopper, license or sell inserts to small custom designers (Coggin, Piretti, etc)), As option: a zero-torque Stability style shaft optimized optimized for their heads. Patented. So which is itrobots good, or robots bad? Both putters have the Evnroll Gravity Grips which are amazing. I am very excited for this test. NOW AVAILABLE: GolfWRX G/Fore Hats and Holderness & Bourne Polos! Practically, this means the brand will feature a single black-and-white color scheme that includes the grip and head cover. Refine and evolve. Thats Rifes mindset as Evnroll seeks to broach the smedium company size category. If anything a weighted head requires more feel but that is my opinion and my experience. I am unclear as to the point you are trying to make with that statement. Evnroll putters werent available in time for our 2016 Most Wanted Putter test, so to evaluate the effectiveness of this new technology, we put fourEvnroll models up against the best performing putters from our recent 2016 putter test. Thank you. Dont agree with the claims. Im confused MGS. At the end of the day I just couldnt deal with the blocky knock feel off every roll. The curving back phenomenon is explained because the grooves on the inside are deeper and have less space between them than those on the outside of the face. This is about his third (maybe fourth?) Uhh, spin. Still amazes me the power of marketing. If most sales come from a handful of designs, what about the others? Legal proceedings aside, Evnrolls sales continued to climb. I have never read testing or seen comparising made with Bobby Grace putters on your website. What ive found is that on greens with very slick surfaces, over 5 feet, Im much more consistent and putt way better with the odyssey as it slows the ball coming of the face so that even if I miss the longer putt it doesnt go as far. I know at least one European tour player is using it. We see the same thing in our test facility. Had my er2 in the bag now for the last couple of years here in Australia and am yet to see another. This is the only case where I could have seen a robot being used effectively to give us a really good test. Weve seen TR grooves make a difference year after year after year. I do wonder if the design allows for the putter to impart different spin on the ball depending on where on the face the ball is struck. Theoretically the robot testing should remove any doubt, right? Took at least 9 holes to get used to the distance control. We (10 yr old son) bought one last month after talking to someone and comparing other putters with a fitter. Im the best putter in my regular foursome (9.2 index) and the other 3 guys all game Scottys. They are woody feeling and harsh. Feel confident to do it varies greatly. Now, the spin imparted to the ball by this interaction does have ramifications for the flight of the ball due to aerodynamic effects resulting from that spin, but gear effect is not in itself an aerodynamic phenomenon. The Evnroll ER2 required 9 fewer putts to complete holes at the 10 distance. HmmmThis just sounds too good to be true. Evnroll ER2V or Scotty Cameron Squareback 2 By bozack, August 9, 2021 in Putters 1 I needed a 35 putter and they only had 1 left and it looked less than perfect. Length-specific head and grip weighting combine to elevate stroke consistency and control. The truth just sounds different.". This is my favorite golf site and Tony is my favorite author on here. I suppose no one wants to listen to the fact that we have proven this to not be true over and over and over again. i read the review and the results are impressive! Spin a bowling ball and it curves. I stroked the ER1 and ER2. I kept hearing it but nowhere did it say how or why it happened but your explanation makes total sense. Many golfers need the lighter head weights in their putters. Ive had the ER 1 for around 5 plus years, and more than 85 percent of the time its in the bag, I do like the product. At 20 the PING Ketch Mid again finished on top, with 3 Evnroll models finishing within 3 putts. The Er2 was something special in my hands. Blah, blah, blah bottom line, gotta make money, blah, blah. That to me means something is original. Im getting the speed down very quickly and excited to see if my stats drop measurably over a full season. Would probably have been best if they made sure their website was up BEFORE posting this article. Would you spend $329 on a driver that you use about 8 times a round? I played 27 with the er2 yesterday and Im a believer. I am a small club maker/fitter and what I find in common with the Evnroll putter and a driver are the scorelines and the gear effect that is common with some of the drivers. Thanks for a laymans explanation. A tour-quality golf ball at a fraction of the cost? Sufficed to say that were 100% confident that many of you can absolutely lower your score by doing nothing more than changing putters. funny, that the biggest advantage is on short puts exact the opposite of what is to expect, if the ball is rolling the same distance in the same line, on off-center hits What about how quickly the cell phone virtually eliminated the payphone? Lets go back to what piqued our curiosity about this technology. Truthfully, the leap from relative unknown to a bona-fide market mover is the result of countless hours of dedication to a specific objective that benefits from some sort of inflection point. In the store it felt great to use but their putting surface was not great as had a bad roll in the surface which was difficult to see. Our mission is #ConsumerFirst. I tend to think putters are a very personal thing.
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