For the next 14 years Winchester aggressively sought new markets, created new products and explored new opportunities for his lever-action rifles. Corncob media is fine for most brass. http://www.300blktalk.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=141&t=81553. If you choose to load subsonic ammo for an AR-15, some bullet ogives can interfere with first rib in the standard AR magazine, causing the ammo to bind and not feed correctly. 5-2556 Review The needs of the various shooting disciplines differ greatly. Effective range for hunting is about 100-150 yards. You'll either spend less or shoot more. Suggested subsonic load: R-P 300 AAC BLACKOUT brass Remington 7.5 primers 11.2 grains of AA 1680 powder Case length is 1.368 +0.000 -0.020 Sierra 220 MK loaded to 2.089 OAL (this length is optimal for reliable feeding from USGI magazines) . It provides similar effectiveness to the 7.6239 or the slightly more powerful 30-30 cartridges except works in the more up-to-date AR15 platform. Bullets for the .300 Blackout are where things can also get interesting. Both loads are with a 225gr. gallantbullets.com May 3, 2020 #22 Pgohil Well Known Rokslider. Serving as optimal powders for their intended cartridges. An ideal solution for loading 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and even 410-bore shotshell ammunition, its high loading density provides optimal velocity. A better solution to this problem is to use the .300 Blackout-specific magazines made by D&H Tactical and Magpul.A couplenice-to-have items that are not necessarily required for reloading .300 blackout are a brass tumbler and brass separator. Heavier subsonics can use Hodgdon CFE Black, Winchester 296 and Accurate 1680. Thats a lot of work already done that I only need to tweak for my rifle, however when I chrono these loads Sierra is pretty much dead on! Get the invoqe newsletter for similar stories delivered straight to your inbox. by lupy123 Sat Dec 14, 2013 8:06 pm, Post select rifle cartridge and then 300 AAC Blackout Lists loads using: IMR 4227 (subs and supers) W296 (subs and supers, however may not function some carbine systems with subs. For more information, go towww.P65Warnings.ca.gov, I have gotten great results when used to reload 300BK OUT, Love this powder. endobj If you arent worried about being on the cutting edge of accuracy, the fast twist needed to stabilize the heavier bullets, means you are spinning the lighter loads way too fast. The twist rate needed to accommodate the heavy subsonic bullets makes finding accurate super sonic loads difficult. There are many good reasons to reload for .300 Blackout. When a certain caliber can range from pushing bullets around 150 grains down range around 2500 feet per second to throwing 245-grain bullets at 950 feet per second, it obviously . works like a charm. While subsonic loads are technically possible with W296, you should avoid them because it is too easy to reach dangerous overpressure levels with this powder. Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. Hodgdon H110 is identical to Winchester 296; it is simply sold under a different label. Does Lee offer a Powder Thru Expanding Die for the 300 AAC Blackout. Works good for 357 mag, achieves expected 1200+ fps. Since my post back in Jan 2019, I have switched and lil Gun cut the groups in half.Sub sonic. Although all Ramshot propellants are made in Belgium at the PB Clermont factory, it is a Hodgdon brand, benefitting from the companys decades of experience in smokeless powder manufacturing. Copyright Ammotogo.com 2023 All Rights Reserved. Offcource in case of subsonic 300 BLK, forgot to mention, sorry. Onm4>#wgfYcX+x;^!%w Gpho?w3x[:gb@UC8|tKn). by crs7861 Sun Dec 15, 2013 12:25 am, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Click here to download Sierra Bullets 300 AAC Blackout Load Data for the 5th Edition Manual. An innovative way to carry your backup gun. A Nosler 125 gr. I would say 10 times more people use lil gun than R7 for subsonic loads. For specific loads, there is also information available on Hodgdon Powders website.One thing you may want to decide before reloading .300 Blackout is whether you want to load subsonic ammunition, supersonic ammunition or both. The following has published data for both 220gr and 125 gr bullets for the 300 blackout Winchester 296, IMR 4227, H110, and Lil' gun. As Im sure you noticed, some powders handle a fairly wide variety of bullet weights. The two key features that make the 300 BLK excellent for the AR platform, make it difficult to work with in a bolt action rifle; a short case and use of both super and subsonic bullets. Joined Feb 16, 2018 Messages 439. The 300 BLK is an interesting cartridge for the rifleman. Another option is to load your own. Early on, the claimed goal was to have ammunition prices on par with the inexpensive .223 Rem. RL-7 seems to work somewhat with subsonic loads in Carbine (which will work for pistol) gas systems with maybe a few bolt hold open (BHO) issues but that may not bother too many. Nosler also has a heavyweight offering, in addition to various lighter weight options. This cartridge accepts 0.308 bullets, making it a true .30-caliber cartridge for which a wide selection of projectiles ranging from 80 to 250 grains is available. The D&H Tactical magazine on the right shows no such issue with the 180-grain Rainier Ballistics FP, due to having shallower front ribs in the magazine. In ill health for some time, Oliver F. Winchester died December 11, 1880 at age 70 in New Haven, Connecticut. endobj We are currently populating the cartridge drop-down menu with updated cartridge renderings, new propellants and bullets, and links to complimentary product pages. Rounds were fed from a AICS style 223 magazine from Accurate Mag. Want a subsonic load using reloader 7 or h4198? <>>> .300 Whisper / .300 AAC Blackout / .300 Blackout reloading data with 26 loads. There are different opinions about the need for magnum primers with H110 in 300 BLK. by Merlin1274 Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:38 pm, Post 7.3 grains of trail boss seems high even for max charge. 3 0 obj by rjacobs Sat Dec 14, 2013 4:27 pm, Post AAC 7.62 Suppressor , Crimp is most important as heavy bullets want to move on recoil in the mag and will cause vertical stringing. The short case length doesnt necessarily effect feeding, since the bullet of the loaded cartridge is similar in length to the 223 Remington, but it can make ejection difficult from many bolt action rifles. This is the only powder I have used in my 44 Magnum ever since. You can purchase factory-new brass made by Hornady or Remington. An ideal solution for loading 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and even 410-bore shotshell ammunition, its high loading density provides optimal velocity. Converting an AR-15 to fire 300 Blackout is as simple as swapping its barrel. In contrast, subsonic .300 Blackout is ballistically very close to the Russian 9x39mm, the 2 often being compared to the point that bullet drop data and points of impact are virtually identical from 0 to 200 meters. I have some other common pistol powders like lil gun, bullseye, and titegroup but would like to hear what you guys use for the 147 pills. 7. 300 BLK, Cartridge Selection, Reloading Come join the discussion about fishing guides, bait, safety, gear, tackle, tips, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! However, that can be problematic, as the shorter length can also make it easy for a loaded .300 Blackout cartridge to be chambered in a .223 Rem. In fact hide all tools you value from such people.At some point in the .300-Blackout reloading process, youre going to need to be able to weigh your powder charges. The 300 blackout round is prominent in hunting and personal defense If you cannot find one powder in stock, the other may function as a substitute, using the same load data. However, it is listed in the 2017 and later printings. Depending on the weight and length of the bullet selected, the amount of space available inside the case may change dramatically. The .300 cartridge uses the same powder as large caliber handguns, such as .44 & .45's. Powders that cover most 300 BLK projectiles. Start load: 9.9 grains (ca 975 Fps). The case dimensions are very similar to .223 Remington and 5.56mm NATO, with virtually identical cartridge overall length (COL) and base diameter, allowing a shooter to load .300 Blackout cartridges in an unmodified AR-15 magazine without loss of capacity. Scroll right to see energy, drop and coefficient data. : 2,293 2,458 Press. Silhouette shooters claim it is the most accurate 44 powder they have ever used. Supersonic loads allow you to use lighter bullets and reach higher muzzle velocities. Plenty of nice loads available for many components. My Hornady 10th edition manual doesn't include it either. Pistol ammo loads with H110 call for magnum primers. Most quiet but not functional (w/o lighter springing): For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. 300 Blackout - 150gr Speer Gold Dots. 4 0 obj Bill Marr With the right projectiles and an adequate rifle platform, such loads are ideal for hunting or self-defense. Size -- Quantity It has since become popular for a wide range of uses including hunting and home defense. Loading 300 Blackout - ep 10 - First subsonic test loads with Palmetto Projectiles Function and velocity testing with Winchester 296 A look at 300 Blackout ballistics including velocity, energy and drop data for some of the most popular loads among American shooters. Born in Boston in 1810, Winchesters initial foray into business was as a maker of mens shirts. Whether you are reloading to save money or to create the perfect load for hunting, self-defense, or suppressed use, there is load data and a suitable propellant for you. powder: A1680. Either way, I think we can all agree both are good. An ideal solution for loading 357 Magnum, 44 Magnum, and even 410-bore shotshell ammunition, its high loading density provides optimal velocity. And i thought i was the only who ever tried sr4759. It is also widely considered to be the powder of choice for .410 bore shotgun shells. 6.5 Creedmoor load development: Sierra 130 grain Tipped MatchKing (TMK) with H4350, Varget, Reloder 15 and Reloader 17, First impressions ofthe Modular Driven Technologies (MDT) HS3 Chassis system. and 5.56 NATO loads. Take your pick. The case manufacturer, Nosler or Jagemann (JAG), is listed on the table below. The 2017 printing is identified by the gold star on the front cover that states "Revised 2017 New Powders over 37,000 loads". Load data may show slight variations between 296 and 110, but as I understand it, those differences are from varied batches during testing time with each powder label. Testing both .308 versions of the Speer Gold Dot in 300 Blackout. I was rather surprised that I received an request to review Win 296 powder. 20 gr will drive 55 gr to 62 gr .223 rounds OK. Peruse the Hodgdon Online data files and see for yourself. I use it for my 220gr subsonic 300 blk loads. A balance-beam scale used for measuring powder charges. VISIT THE RDC BALL POWDER In 1929, the Western Cartridge Company (forerunner of Winchester Ammunition) received U.S. Patent #2,027,114, issued to Western Cartridge as "Manufacture of Smokeless Powders." A view into a Dillon Precision XL650 progressive reloading press midway through loading some .300 Blackout with 180 . The 300 AAC Blackout (300 BLK) is a popular alternativecartridgein the AR-15/M16 M4 (AR) community. Powders for subsonic single shot, bolt action, Lehigh defense 110gr controlled Chaos factory load. powder coated cast bullet made with NOE bullet mold TL310-225-RN, lead hardness at 24bhn, sized to 0.310". Available in 1 lb., 4 lb. My Start load was 16.5 grains and showed no pressure. It was easy to establish, reliable, repeatable results. W296 is more than similar, it IS H110. velocities averaging 1,040fps in most 16" guns using the 194gr ME bullet, Federal small rifle primer, and 2.200" COL: Powders For the 300 blk. If you need greater amounts of ammo, you may want to look at a turret or progressive press. There tends to be a lot of newer 300 blk owners, and re-loaders joining lately, and I believe that will continue to grow. To be able to use the full range of Shopware 6, we recommend activating Javascript in your browser. IMR 4227 is suitable for supersonic and subsonic loads. Most have reported it will not work for pistol systems either) H110 (subs and supers, however may not function some carbine systems with subs. Lets explore all this caliber has to offer including an in-depth look at 300 Blackout Ballistics. Subscribe to the free newsletter and do not miss any news or promotions. Sign up to get updates and access to exclusive promotions. You all show older data in the 300 using lil gun for a load workup option. Supersonic loads with lighter bullets are suitable for hunting and offer ballistics equivalent to .30-30 Winchester or 7.62x39mm. While subsonic loads are technically possible with W296, you should avoid them because it is too easy to reach dangerous overpressure levels with this powder. Most of the reloading manuals show lower data, I suspect this is related to the wide variety of ways to form brass for the cartridge and how that may cause an increase in pressures. Duane Siercks, Ballistic Technician. Pingback: NEW: Sierra Bullets .300 AAC Blackout Reloading Data - AK Arms, Pingback: NEW: Sierra Bullets .300 AAC Blackout Reloading Data | Firearms Life, They should. Then select your bullet weight, powder manufacturer and powder type. This could be Hodgdon H110, Hodgdon CFE Black, Accurate 1680, Reloder 7 or a variety of others. Now I use the 296 only for my S&W 460. Certifiable has done some pretty good work on Subsonic powders for both carbine and pistol gas systems. Winchester 296 is also recommended for 410-bore AA loads. IMR4198 approx. Although they are more recently developed cartridges, lots of people love lil' gun in 460 Magnum and in the rifle cartridges 300 Blackout and 450 Bushmaster. I dont recommend deviating from this for safety reasons. http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp, http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-conten 16_Web.pdf, http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-conten 7-2-13.pdf, http://sierrabullets.files.wordpress.co ackout.pdf, http://www.lehighdefense.com/index.php/load-data, http://www.barnesbullets.com/wp-content TAC-TX.pdf, http://www.quarterbore.com/300whisper/subsonic.html, http://www.quarterbore.com/300whisper/supersonic.html. or 5.56 NATO chamber. Your email address will not be published. This cartridge was designed from the ground up to provide adequate performance in both supersonic and subsonic applications, making it highly versatile and adaptable. Never seen that with 1:7 rifling twist. As far as the other machines, I would stick to what they recommend.One of two tools I find indispensible, not including those for making necessary die and press adjustments is a case gauge. If you are using heavily soiled range-pickup brass, youll need the more aggressive walnut-hull media.All in all, youll have some upfront costs but if you shoot a lot of .300 Blackout, youll find the break even point in short order. The cleaner your brass is, the longer your dies will last, especially if that brass has been in the dirt at all. I think 296 and 4227 are the same powders, not 100% sure though. Johnny's Reloading BenchAn idiot and his reloading press My affiliate links and donation . I told him about my load development experience and he asked why I didnt use a 1:14 twist and a reamer with a short throat like he planned on doing. These guns have had mixed success. . Their first model, the TAC21 houses a Remington M700 in an aluminum chassis, [], 308 Winchester Load Development I headed to the range to do some load development for my custom Remington 700 chambered in 308 Winchester with a 22 long barrel (my previous load was a NRA High [], Nightforce B.E.A.S.T. The 300 Blackout's .30 caliber bullet can be made especially long, and as the result may weigh up to 220 grains quadruple the weight of the typical 223 Rem round's. So heavy a bullet conveys a subsonic muzzle velocity and correspondingly softer report. If you're unsure, or just want options, check as many boxes as you'd like. We place limited powder inventory for sale on a regular basis on our website. I am attempting to load both 2-1/2" and 3" Win HS hulls, using WIN WAA410HS wads (NOT the claybuster generic equivalent) and WIN 296/H110 powder. There was a problem loading the comments. They first looked to the 7.6239 for inspiration. Smart and safe loader will back off the load and work it back up simply due to powder age and lot variation. 01-26-2013, 07:53 AM #9 bmiller Boolit Buddy IMR propellants have long been used to manufacture US military service ammunition, such as .30-06 M2 Ball (IMR 4895) or 7.62mm NATO M61 AP (IMR 4475). Cartridge Filter By Bullet Weight Powder Type I found some commercial manufactures (mostly off the record) either discontinued bolt guns in 300 BLK, pulled them from the market after the product was announced, or declined to introduce them due to accuracy and feeding concerns. 0. These dimensions make caliber conversions of firearms from 5.56/.223 to .300 Blackout relatively easy, only needing a barrel replacement. The Latest In Reloading, Straight To Your Inbox Keep up-to-date on new products, trends and tips from the leader in reloading. Data from a POF 10.5" barrel, 1:7" twist. Winchester 296 is also recommended for 410-bore AA loads. The second of the two tools I find indispensible is a good set of calipers. Alliant Power Pro 300-MP Lake City Federal 205 17.1 1866 19.2 Winchester 296 Lake City Federal 205 16.7 1894 18.4 Ramshot Enforcer Lake City Federal 205 15.4 1839 17.2 IMR 4227 Lake City Federal 205 16.7 1823 18.5 C Accurate 5744 Lake City Federal 205 17.5 1829 18.7 C Vihtavuori N110 Lake City Federal 205 15.0 1830 16.5 C The rifle, as pictured above, includes the following parts fromBrownells: For testing and evaluation purposes, I used 125, 135, 175 and 220 grain Sierra MatchKings (left to right in photo below) over H110 and IMR 4227 powders. More about this powder: Winchester 296 is a ball powder developed for large handgun loads. . containers. loads were well over the stated FPS in the loading data of 2100 fps. I explained to him he wouldnt really have a 300 BLK anymore. Load Data Card - .300 AAC Blackout (7.62x35mm) - AR-15. Highly recommended, I reload for my 300 Blackout very clean burning powder and accurate, great for .357, .41, and .44 magnum pistols. JP silent spring, 1 1/2 MOA . Find load data for Winchester 296 propellant by clicking the button "Loads for this Powder".More about this powder:Wincheste. Id urge you to do the same. 448 54 A supersonic 300 Blackout round with a 110 grain bullet has a muzzle velocity approximately 1,000 fps slower than that of a 223 Rem, giving it a significantly faster bullet drop. Although they share .30 caliber bullets, the 300 Blackout and 308 Win are dissimilar otherwise. The 300 Blackout cartridge is known for providing a wide range of bullet weights and velocities much to the chagrin of bullet drop compensating scope reticle designers. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. Hammer Women Of Distinction Award, Women's Wildlife Management / Conservation Scholarship, National Youth Shooting Sports Cooperative Program, 224 Valkyrie Handloading: Working With Different Barrel Twist Rates, SHOT Show 2018: Daniel Defense V7P AR Pistol, Four Improved AR-15 Trigger Sets Under $100, First Look: B&T USA SPR300 PRO in .300 BLK, New: Magpul Enhanced Selector Kit For AR-Pattern Firearms | An NRA Shooting Sports Journal, First Look: Bersa BAR AR-15 | An Official Journal Of The NRA, Handloading The .223 Rem. APP Automatic Processing Press 90951 90933, http://leeprecision.com/300aac-blackout-c-tb.html. As mentioned, it should NOT be reduced. Oliver Fisher Winchester was an innovative and driven man who saw the future of firearms and built an industrial empire around the lever-action rifle. Other companies, such as Hornady, also have a variety of projectiles available ranging from light to heavy weight for the caliber. AR-platform rifles optimized to run subsonic 300 Blackout tend to fire supersonic ammo poorly. My TSAR 11.5 upper is flawless so far. Most of these loads are around sixteen grains so I guess they have similar burning rates. Ramshot Enforcer is also usable as a high-performance powder for .300 Blackout supersonic loads, ideal for projectiles ranging between 110 and 155 grains. Ive seen published load data with N120 as well. Not only does this allow for compatibility with existing magazines and bolts, but it allows reloaders to form their own brass from cut-down 5.56mm or .223 cases ensuring brass supply even in the event of a shortage of factory brass. February 15, 2022. by tallburnedmidget Sat Dec 14, 2013 6:54 pm, Post Hodgdon produced the following load data using a 16 barrel with a 1:8 barrel twist rate, Hornady cases trimmed to 1.363, and Remington 7 1/2 Small Rifle Magnum primers. All .300 Blackout rifles can shoot either subsonic or supersonic with no additional changes or accessories, the only difference being in the ammunition. 300 Blackout 220 GR SIE HPBT Winchester 296 .308" 2.260" . Please take the time to read the disclaimer below and note that this data was gathered in a bolt action rifle and NOT a semiautomatic rifle. I'm loading .300 Blackout with 230gr bullets. of H-110 as a supersonic loading. VAT (where applicable), shipping costs and possible delivery charges. Comprehensive load data for Winchester 296 reloading powder und technical specifications for this propellant. We do not take backorders and our Tech Services team cannot take orders via email or phone. Select your cartridge type from the drop-down list. As such, a subsonic 300 Blackout load makes an ideal accompaniment to a suppressor, suiting it well for (A) tactical situations where ear protection would be impractical, and (B) hunting hogs without scattering the whole pack after the first shot. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); If you guys had bothered to ask people what powder they would like to see lil gun would definitely be on that list. I have loaded some 150 grain Power Points with I 4227. Such loads tend to deliver more consistent performance, resulting in fewer muzzle velocity variations between each shot. Technical Specifications (based on the respective safety standard - see more details in tab "Datasheet" if available) Subscribe to the free newsletter and do not miss any news or promotions. (296 and H110 are verified the exact same powder, just marketed under two different brand names.)
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