Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. Hosted by Duncan Steer. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. You only need to listen to him to get that he has no time for Johnny Foreigner. For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. Yates was obviously cooked - why else would anyone work for dozens of kilometres and then give up in the final 2km? Eurosport have a lot of these, so theres a lot of conversation going on in your ear [between producers] and its quite a task trying to keep the flow of what you are saying, Kirby says. But Mark Cavendish says no: what the track does is make you think fast, it makes you think within a very tight set of circumstances. Went for a bike ride earlier today. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. I can walk or drive the technical approach to the finish, which is gold. All material FarrellyAtkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. Discovery company. The atmosphere fills up with buzz from moment to moment that enthusiasm pushes the words out of the heart. Owned by Warner Bros. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. Let us know what you think in the comments. Theres no doubt about it, the most difficult thing to do is cover nothing, he says. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. How much longer do the cycling public have to suffer the idiotic commentary from Carlton Kirby ?? The Wanty-GroupeGobert rider was air lifted to hospital after the crash yesterday, but thankfully it seems like he's in a stable condition. His Grand National, Murray Walker shouting in the last 2 kilometres really is unbelievable. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. He has poor knowledge and really just annoys everyone. For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? The very aspect of commentating that requires filling the gaps spanning hours of no action is the reason. People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. The Vuelta a Espana used to be the worst of the Grand Tours because theyd have transitions day of 250km across a desert. In the early 1990's he became a freelance commentator. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. Carlton Kirby brings his True Tales of the Tour de France to Reading on Weds June 21, a little over a week before #TDF2023 , as he launches his new @BloomsburySport book, Sticky Bottle . When Cavendish won again on stage 14, Kittel just fell to pieces emotionally. OK. And then, we wait. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. As for the Sky Team Fans member - you wouldnt actually be Mr Kirby would you ???? You could hear a pin drop. And I said: Because I asked him! I asked him at breakfast, because when youre on-site, you can talk to the riders. What is his cycling background ? During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. Star names like Sagan getting knocked off and knocked out of races. Its the constant attempts at humour, then the giggling at his own in-jokes that has me reaching for the mute button. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. And to be honest, most of us are scared of losing Carlton Kirkby in case Ant McCrossan takes his place. Its the art of illusion. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. He believes. Eurosport cant get away with this !! (PS If there's anything here about donating, that's the website host - nothing to do with this petition - there is nothing to donate to. Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. To my mind, the motorcycles are the most dangerous because they have the least ability to stop. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. Also, I would say many of his criticisms are unfair and/or cruel. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. Kelly will probably kill him by the end. Mrs John Murphy May 3, 2010 2,662 0 0 Aug 26, 2011. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. It was almost featureless and the riders would not engage in it at all. You have entered an incorrect email address! Eurosportreports that Kenny expanded on the incident on BBC One today, saying: Someone felt they had right of way and decided that gave them the right to kind of jump on the throttle and drive at us, which was a scary experience. The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. It is all kinds of stuff. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. Theres so much stuff going on because in front of us for starters, we have live timing, results sheets, stage profiles, live pictures, alternative live pictures and a sub-monitor with the schedule. It is crazy. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. Proper all rounder. Its a case of trying to keep everybody amused. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. There are some other sports, like cycling, where the commentary has to be complete. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. However, a lot of his fans understand this and support him. Seriously. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. Nobody but nobody doesnt sprint for 5th at the end of a Monument. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. With very little data being sent to them, and some pretty bad camerawork they have made a good fist of the event in Spain. And if you ever thought the job of the commentator was easy, think again, with the ability to multi-task a key skill for anyone working in live television. Cue points, Kirby adds, are a bigger problem at Eurosport than with other networks, with producers calling for radio silence across the Eurosports various nationalbroadcasts to assist with the editing process. See the recording of the last Carlton Kirby Zoomcast hereEnjoy our vintage/summer Parisian Spotify playlist (plus Little Italy by Stephen Bishop, not French, don't write in) hereSee Carlton's 2.4K views, 20 likes, 3 loves, 5 comments, 3 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from Eurosport: "The pictures were all over the news. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Its a massive operation. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. But, being in the studio means there is a considerable loss of interaction. As for Kirby - its the arrogance of the bloke - does he think his viewers are 10 year olds who know NOTHING about cycling. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. I have - again - sent this to Eurosport (23/2/23, with 1,871 signatures - and 1,400 people taking the time to comment!). Thanks to all who have signed. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. I do love the sport because its a crescendo sport. March 2, 2022 . And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. It's their commentators or silence. At least he can string a sentence together and he seems to bring good comments out of Backstedt. Various types of distractions are always ready for a commentator. It doesnt take much accomplishment to understand what Kirby is referring to. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. Its the press guys we see more, because of the mechanics of the day. Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc On the descent, motorbikes often get too close to the cyclist in front of them. We dont want this man commentating. Read our full Privacy Policy as well as Terms & Conditions. Ive now just watched the end of Milan-Sanremo again: Aranburu wasnt in the first group behind Morhoric, so he literally couldnt have come higher than 10th. I've also been known to drag washing machines behind the bike and throw them down embankments, along with piles of grass clippings, black bags of household rubbish and several hubcaps. ). ADDITIONAL: 13/4/21 - Some have said that this petition is 'cruel', but if you're in the public eye then you are open to criticism of your professional abilities - or are we now not allowed to criticise the abilities of authors, actors, sports people, musicians, etc.? I realise that commentating on a race involving nearly 200 riders is challenging, but since 1986 I have always been able to follow what is going on thanks to the commentary. That doesnt portend his job has not become a whole lot harder. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc And yet, love him or loathe him, Kirbys voice is as intrinsically linked to the Tour de France, for Eurosport viewers at least, as other famous voices across the sporting spectrum. A lot of these guys seems to have free rein on what they are doing. It's embarrassing now. There is a rumour that the plane ticket has already been bought for Mark to leave the Tour, but I think the temptation is there for him to go to the Champs-lyses because he believes in his mind that he has worked out how to unpick Marcel Kittel, who is his main threat. There are people who love what I do, and others who hate it, he admits. I could paint the Galibier and Ventoux and even some of the rarer mountains by memory. When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. He is thinking Champs Elysees. VN:When youre at the race, who are you talking to regularly to get your intel for the broadcast? Get access to more than 30 brands, premium video, exclusive content, events, mapping, and more. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. (@StasaZlatanovic) March 24, 2019. Juan Antonio Flecha and Johnny Hoogerland were sent into barbed wire on the Tour de France because the France TV van was about to hit a tree having a run out of road, but took the softer option of the riders. Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. Plus security bikes, plus rolling paramedics. Following a two year broadcasting secondment with the United Nations in the South Pacific he joined ITV as TVam's overnight Sports Producer and Reporter. Some of which have been admitted, some of which weren't. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. CK: You need the details. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast and what is lost from these two very different broadcasting scenarios. Well, Ill tell you: It makes your view of the race verifiable when youre there. Kirby tells us that Batistella is punching his handlebars in celebration. When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. It is not so bad if they are in front because the rider can tell the motorbike to go away, but if it is trailing the rider and the rider comes off, there is always the possibility of impact. Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. If youve watched Eurosport cycling, you'll know. Exactly - and if you had any insight into professional riding and experience actually being a pro like Sean Kelly or Rob Hayles - you wouldnt struggle to find commentary. That is in fact my main Friday occupation. The One Subscription to Fuel All Your Adventures. Teams have been announced for May's Tour de Yorkshire and the Asda Tour de Yorkshire Women's Race. I think people will appreciate what were trying to deal with. He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. What you are talking about is a place in history. Pure invention; based on nothing. While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. e-bikes are very much the SUVs of the car world with every manufacturer seemingly keen to add at least one to their range to not miss out. The unrelenting, inane chatter (did any of us want to know that his wife had their third child by caesarean section? 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. View our media pack. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. or maybe you,re a relative ?? 27/8/22: Stage 7 of the Vuelta, Herrada wins the sprint and has his arm in the air in celebration. Bridport cycles. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. Joe Robinson. CK:I think not many people will notice. So many other cycling commentators on Eurosport. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. Not much love for Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby amongst the Team Sky ranks it seems Air pollution: London mother launches petition for second inquest into daughter''s death, Jason Kenny recounts last months near miss on BBC TV, Yoann Offredo's condition described as not life-threatening after GP de Denain crash, Telegraph article suggests "Littering cyclists and joggers could be to blame for countryside rubbish problem", Jeremy Vine's latest unpleasant encounter, 'Youths on pedal cycles' help Wednesfield Police catch thief, Best Cycling Website, BikeBiz Awards 2018, Tao Geoghehan Hart (picture copyright Simon Wilkinson, SWPix.com via Britishcycling.org_.uk), "Looks like shit. There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. You always get letters or emails from people who really enjoyed your commentary, but youll always get those who hate every fibre of your being.. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirby's voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosport's race coverage. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. Riders having to get close to a motorbike just to take a corner. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. But Kirby is only interested in his own narrative: McEwen told him twice that Herrada had won, but Kirby kept eulogising about Batistella's 'win', even as Herrada celebrated further coming past the camera. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. @DeGendtThomas, guanyador de la primera etapa de la #VoltaCatalunya 2019. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. If its one of those days where its going to end in a sprint and you need to cover 240km, then its gonna be a bit of a drag. Astonishingly though, a single stage of the Tour de France lasts for about more than six hours. This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. ), there is a thread in the Eurosport 'comments and suggestions' forum requesting that he be removed from the roster. I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. At the moment I turn up to a large building that has been stripped of staff, and there are just 16 people in the building. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. I've just discovered, after following a tweet that Orla Chennaoui had re-tweeted, that the esteemed Mr Kirby has blocked me on Twitter. If it goes on for two or three years, then people will notice because the freshness of what is in our heads will ebb. Join Outside+ to get complete access to exclusive content on VeloNews, training plans for road and gravel, and more. It is a free-for-all. There are no points for each turn. De Gendt, Volta 2019 Stage 1 winner. It means sometimes were not actually commentating from the finish line because the Tour de France is so huge theres about 8,000 people attached to the Tour. Carlton Kirby As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carlton's Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. Brentford today angry guy in grey car can't see why he should wait till it's safe to overtake hoots horn, shouts abuse and 100 yards later I'm in front again anyway. Page 6 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community. His knowledge of most non-english speaking riders can be written on the back of a postage stamp, with the exception of 'famous' foreigners like the Schlecks, Dertie Cont, Cancellera and after this spring Gilbert. I could get 20 minutes of commentary out of dinner last night. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. Please tell your friends: Ive read so many negative comments about Kirby that unlike most online petitions this one could work. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. Ive just turned Catalunya on and hes already come out with I think he fell victim to his agent, so now hes at x team. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. The youngsters were congratulated by the force on Twitter, as they helped chase down a thief who had stolen over 300 worth of goods. Baseless. The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo and more Tech in brief: new gear from Shimano, Park Tool, Wahoo, Tortec and more Vitus launch three bikes for cyclo-cross season. Controversial! 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. We will never sell your data and you'll only get messages from us and our partners whose products and services we think you'll enjoy. https://yahoo.uservoice.com/forums/1698 ant-drivel, http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=85131. COME ON WRITE TO EUROSPORT AND LETS GET HIM OFF ! How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. We usually have to drive to the finish line, which is where the commentary positions normally are theyre like double-decker coaches all lined up there, Kirby sayd. The Tour forces us to have dinner. Theyd often stop too Euskaltel-Euskadi were one of the most common for that, theyd roll to the front, let everyone know it wasnt an attack and then ride up the road to briefly chat to family! Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. But it is also true that there isnt a dearth of genuine fans of Kirby who really appreciate his vast knowledge on the field. You get the atmosphere and emotion of a place. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22. It easy to forget that before this tour Mark Cavendish, the greatest of all great sprinters, had never beaten Marcel Kittel in a head-to-head. His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. The best thing you can do is relax, in my opinion, Kirby explains about going live on air. The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. You cant please everybody and as a commentator thats something you have to get to grips with. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. Your Tour de France telecastwill look the same this year, but it may feel somewhat different. Kittel is not a broken man, but his supremacy has tumbled because Mark Cavendish has only gone and won four stages here. What blasphemy is this? Or at least diminished. VN:What difference will people notice in this years Tour broadcast from a normal year, when you and your team are on-site? When actually its just hand-written sheet of notes to recall from.. James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. Thankfully, no tree roots to overcome. I heard him doing weightlifting once. It is not just the press core looking for pictures for the following day. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. Discovery company. I am having this problem too. You can sound like youre a genius, with an incredible memory, Kirby says. All rights reserved. It is not just the motocycles remember. #GPDenain pic.twitter.com/2DsagK73lS, Wanty-Gobert Cycling Team (@TeamWantyGobert) March 24, 2019. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") Carlton Kirby: No matter if youre in a mobile unit at the finish, or in a studio with air conditioning and a coffee machine, youre doing the same thing, the view out the window is just different. Ive fallen off the Galibier. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. Ill ring someone up on-site to talk to them. wow, all the power to you man! This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. Well then I propose a CN forum audio livestream for the tour de france. Yep I always watch the ITV coverage if possible - even if that means missing the stage live and watching the highlights package (like the vuelta). American racers headed to Italy chime in. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he . What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! He's probably too much of a joker,not serious enough, but has a 'springy' voice which is good to listen to. Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'.
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