They said fraud protection is only reserved for exclusive sellers. So in this case you could say we are the asses and there's lots of us so we form a huge ass and CGt can place many chairs for us to sit on ;-) Their only flaws are the lack of publicity and their search engine. This is a totally separate "operation" that is going on under the acquisitions of CGstudio and T3DFM, which serve also as noisy cover to "wag the dog". for someone that is a little more unique. Then there is the stupid "reputation" point issue. In this case you could say (in a nutshell) CGt is (at its core) acting as a hub providing file hosting and transaction services, and it can basically do so whit everything digital. New content is not provided to the on "Turbo" site. just needs more publicity.. us designers need to market the site with our products at the rate one of my designs is going ill have more facebook likes/shares than the website itself has on one design - Fixing some guidelines to upload quality models (at least assuring that obj models, for instance, if textured, should have a proper .mtl file, limiting the models to quads/tris, imposing materials and textures to have understandable names, etc. Rigged 3D Models | CGTrader 3D Models Buy or download free Rigged 3D Models Rigged 3D models are your best choice when you need a character or object to perform unique movements. You can enter multiple email addresses separated by commas, Thank you for shopping at TurboSquid. We've been doing business with Turbosquid for more than 10 years until our very public issues last year: http://www.nonecg.com/turbosquid/turbosquid_nonecg.htm. You can change your subscription preferences at any time in the account settings. Get this item for $ when you bundle it with the items in your cart. It is also wise to invest in good ideas that are future proof. Here only I have doubts it would be fair to do do is a difference of 20..25% in the price of its models, which are intended for sale in the CGT and TS? Its great way to compete and fair . By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use. CG Trader. I don't know if Turbo Squid allows licence ownership to be transferred as i never got that far with them. I can think up multiple scenarios to try get a grip on it but I don't actually care anymore. I am getting more sales on Cgtrader than TS though :P and CGtrader is easier to use. Similar thing happened to me,that's why i'm at CGtrader full time now. It might be a good idea to see what the customer experience is with various market places by making an experimental purchase at each and seeing who has the most effective methods of enticing return visits and encouraging word-of-mouth bumps. Sure you get a lot more income from The3Dstudio. As someone suggested most serious buyers will end up buying 100 bucks worth of models so putting down 1 Dollar isn't going to cause any trouble. Rigged models are great for art projects, games, movies or VR experiences, because they save a lot of development time. Absurd as it may sound, a lot of customers doesn't even make a simple "XXXX 3D model" search and go to Turbosquid just because that's a name they heard before. When I started on cgtrader I had more sales than on TS. Hi guys, thanks so much for your very valuable comments, they are much appreciated and we are very happy to work with you in order to make CGTrader the best place for 3D designers! Another thing that drove me crazy about Turbosquid was how you couldn't promote any of your social media and it made it very difficult to get your clients from let's say Facebook and Twitter to notice your artwork. If they can sell on craigslist, amazon, ebay, walmart, target, toysrus etc Of course they would only sell the 3D printable toys there, either to be printed or already printed then yes all of a sudden 3D printing would be come more relavant and profitable. CGTrader is bather as a platform and like I wrote above if we help in couple of months will overcome TS on search engines, which will also increase our sales. Sometimes you have to support the buyer. Respect and good luck to everyone who is here! i think modeli unique and has need to be bought depend on the buyers not the seller I would even make the prediction that most of what will be left of Ts (following months) are the exclusive sellers, they will probably get very frustrated and come over here no matter what deals they made with Ts. "google8":www.google.com, google10 I think CGT should begin doing the same and promoting people for being exclusive to CGT after all that will help buyer confidence when they realize how many of their best artists are switching sides! After selling on TS over 20 years I can share that our sales here are x5-10 higher (partially due to stopped publishing on TS), so why about uploaded your models on artstation marketplace or other market place which allows you to sell in other sites, I think ts is the worth one. Doesn't seem so. I think that they keep the 3D models as a curtsey only or to serve as samples that could at a later date be turned into prints. I was 2 times victim of credit card fraud on Ts, never happened on CGt so far. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. my main income its still TS. It takes way too long to put up any files. Being an artist himself makes a huge difference in this regard. TurboSquid is garbage. Most small or midsized companies I worked with, did their best to cap their scene polygons at no more 500,000 all models included. But Also Turbosquid actively promotes models on their site with the use o. If I narrow to "man", it's even worse : 64 out of 128 models displayed are scanned 3d models. They may not end up following your ideas, but they will certainly take them into account. Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager, $10,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), Uncapped Legal Protection (Indemnification), $1,000,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification), $250,000 in Legal Protection (Indemnification). CGtrader might have better conditions, rules and everything but it's useless if it doesn't attract more buyers. We finally have some real genuine completion for the best sales platform. You could say CGt is a service platform that harbors and connects sellers and buyers of specific digital goods, in theory there's no limit to how much people and their digital products/services they could connect. No matter how many 3D models you need, we'll take care of it. Do not forget to check out rigged vehicles, guns and other objects, including environments, in addition to rigged characters to increase the control and interactivity you can achieve in your project. So part of the problem would probably be solved if a buyer would indeed get reputation points for buying models and gain more access in the process. This is not a "fight" between NoneCG and Turbosquid, but a struggle between different ways of doing business: the classic closed market or a more open one based on a Fair Business model and full comunication between the producer, the marketer and the customer. To my amazement something ells also happened, there where still a few people buying my more expensive models on Ts. The motivation to backlink and make marketing efforts for the own store (and the collective trademark ad the same time) would probable also increase. CGT needs to get on Amazon a.s.a.p or partner with all the top leading commercial comps in order to make 3D more interesting to more buyers. I like the deposit proposal of flat_3d, but jet again it probably best be part of a repertoire of marketing tools the designer could choose from, not a global policy. I'm also active for some time on other marketplaces as well (e.g. They did so by making products that looked so much cooler than PCs and people were fooled and then eventually they made so much money that then they kept putting back into the product and eventually came out with the Ipad which even all Apple haters love. Better for who? You don't even seem to get reputation points for purchasing items, assuming I've read the page correctly, and if that is the case it's just dumb. http://content.screencast.com/users/Lenwe/folders/Default/media/96a1c5f2-d18b-4e5c-ab3c-01bd5189b9ca/TurboSquid_Monopoly.png Payout fees are just fractions of percent, not worth to consider. "don't you think that corporate client would rather choose to get support from team of profesionals that are available 24/7, than from unknown person, who might respond with big delay or not respon at all?". That takes longer time. I don't know whether it would be possible to implement, but it would stop those who just wanted to download as many free models as possible. First of all make great and spectacular models for it and promote it on forums, facebook, linkedin groups and forums. TurboSquid be avoided guys! In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the . Sometimes 3D model can have some errors, or it was not 100% what buyer had imagined it will be. I left all but . This is why I would opt for a system which includes human sorting out capabilities. We left TS account and getting occasional spam regarding the prices from them. The first thing you see is almost only 3D printing assets. I think arguments of differences in search are irrelevant when someone is looking for the same model to compare prices between the two biggest players. Having too many high poly models in 1 scene can considerably slow down rendering times, work flow and even crash your computer making the entire scene unusable. They customize those figures anyway you want. Of course if you are buying models for the next Transformers movie the poly count won't matter that much because those models may be 500,000 each and you have almost unlimited resources to run those. TS can go to Hell, and never return again. @Urecky, while i'm agree with you in general, let me argue on some specific points. While sellers will be disadvantaged in many interests. Change Method. Just my opinion, but look at homepage. I think John Hoagland already pointed out very well the most direct benefits of doing business with Cgtrader over Turbosquid. I would like to see similar stats from other sellers, but CGtrader has been the 3D marketplace with the higher increase in sales for us without a doubt. Payment Method I hope to find same courage someday ;-) I was thinking of ok if the ts is shit why not using other marketplace with the cgt specially if both accept selling in other marketplace, You have zero 3D models uploaded here. We even stopped publishing new models there. Putting 3D printing as the main product range on first page doesn't help, as has been noted. With the support of a strong community we can get this thing going, don't worry about that. Closed my Ts account because it was completely useless and obsolete. Once that happens it is goodbye Turbosquid and hello big bucks for all of us at CGtrader. and we lived the evolution of Turbosquid from being a pioneer of the 3D assets market working alongside the real content developers to become a typical corporation with financial backing from angel investors that only cares about financial results and is trying to strive the 3D market towards a monopoly where they can control both the producers and the customers, where acting as just a middleman gets Turbosquid the most profit from both. According to me ,in the future, more a 3DMarketplace will be open more it will take to success. If you have any questions about these. what you say doesn't make any sense because CGTrader has a 100 percent guarantee return policy on all models as far as I know. A rig is like a skeleton of a 3D model, which lets you move and pose it with little effort. Why is CGTrader better? Every freelancer is corporation of it's own. In my personal opinion TS is working very hard towards buyers and exploits sellers as much as they can, well except few chosen ones, while CGT is taking great care about sellers, but leaving buyers somewhat aside. He earns trust in this way and we know everything stands or falls with the coming and going of trust. Like time spent on searching models or ability to get profesional support 24/7. After all everyone can afford to put down 1 dollar so it is reasonable. Delhi Escort We all agree that CGT is the better site and needs to win the fight but we all need to reach out to the really influential people and make sure they start promoting the site or we won't win. Everything is more and more coming down to individual levels of very friendly and much more human communication. http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/cgtrader.com, https://www.cgtrader.com/3d-models/exterior/landmark/notre-dame-de-paris-cathedral-61d97afb1b1a62861673c23f15b75c12, https://www.facebook.com/ActiveKetoGummiesAustraliaWebsite. If any of you think this is a show of strength from Matt Wisdom and his Corporate brother Andy, think twice. Thanks iterateCGI, from the start we thought it will be best to expose the issues publicly, so other cg 3D sellers can see for themselves what they are exposed to when dealing with Turbosquid. Turbosquid has the traffic and so you get the sails. I experienced this on other topics like the challenges, where CGT team took some ideas into consideration and applied some of them. Dude, I have from 500$ a month at SGtride and i don't feed fat Turbosquid bastards. I'm just an end-user, one of the people you guys sell to, and the site is a large part of the issue, in multiple ways. The claim Turbosquid made was that it infringed on Games Workshop IPs. However, the behavior of these clients kept me thinking and I had some dilemmas about what was actually going on here. I've often (not just at this site) downloaded "free" items to verify their quality before purchasing models from a vendorI had problems with 3-4 of the "free" items I looked at first here (having no idea there was a limit), and now I can download no more. Just uploading on turbosquid is a pain in the butt. In response he founded this place on the core principal that the artist would come first. CGTrader remains a young and very responsive team and listening to members - it's a great quality. I think there needs to be a more valued motivation ($) in order to get people rank in great numbers consistently. For myself, long live CGTrader and may they keep their principles as they grow. Those are very interesting ideas to develop for the future. Same for me, here. Your account is not in CGtrader and I can't see your models, and judging by the link in your comment you are just a spammer. Yes, CG Trader is the best now some bugs should be solved. bye for now and be well Will and Mr Data :) :]. We can't even communicate on Ts, and that in an age of supper connectivity, it's just the world on his head. They're doing competitions, and that attracts artists, at least. Open a Support Ticket, Licensing questions?Contact your Shutterstock Customer Success Manager. Despite offering models much cheaper (obviously) here than at TSquid, the clients prefer to buy on TSquid. I'm afraid the end of Ts is near and nothing can stop it, maybe the best they can do is raise royalty's to 80% for all sellers, but then again if they don't change the censorship policy's they are applying right now then it will probably not be enough to stop the downfall in the long run. Show more, By subscribing you confirm that you have read and accept ourTerms of Use, max, fbx, blend, uasset, tbscene and more, obj, fbx, unitypackage, prefab, mat and more. personally CGTrader is the second site where I realize more sales, I think we should avoid generalizing his own experience. Basically, they continue to sell their previous models or are selling non-liquid assets. - Limiting free objects to, let's say licensed objects like Stars Wars or Lego or whatever in an unlimited number, but to a few when it comes to "showcase" objects, let's say, 4 to 5 per designer, to help potential buyer judge the overall quality of the seller objects So good luck "shopping elsewhere" dear customer, this is turning into a monopoly slaughterhouse and a 3D warzone. Full collections of objects for 12 bucks is NOT okay. I left the turbosquid from Diamond level . https://www.turbosquid.com/3d-models/cathedral-paris-notre-dame-3d-obj/933856?referral=pit_zavra Maybe you think my words are disproportionate or naive but mark them now. While there is some sellers that naively think they can rely on Turbosquid's good will to improve their situation in the future, the rest of us should be start working together towards a collective benefit. Without checkmate Turbosquid would have gone out of business. In something limonadinis says is true, but I agree with tomislavveg. I don't know how reputation points work for sellers, they may work fine if you're an actual modeler, but for end-users it's just a dead-end. The art is to do it structurally organized and easily navigable and then it is a matter of giving the people the right tools and they will do the rest issue I think. Considering it as a seller, CGtrader is NOT better because I have almost no sales at all while I have about 10 sales every month on TS. (I forgot to put TS up). In my opinion, the worst Turbosquid is doing is minimizing the role and presence of the real content creators, being just a middleman reseller but trying to control all aspects of the product in a way that in the end the customer perceives it more like a "Turbosquid product" than a "Content-creator-X product". Not artist friendly at all, from uploading to statistics (Model views, downloads, and so on). Add a Payment Method, Add a Payment What I saw after that was a 50 to 50 ration decrease on Ts and increase on my CGt account. Most of the Ts artists also moved their work over here and almost everyone knows that, just not the ones hoe are exclusive, it's not going to take too long now before they systematically start breaking the exclusive contract when they see sales going down every month and things going up over here.
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